Group I

There are five pupils in this discussion group: G1, G2, G3, and B1 and B2. The male classroom teacher joins the group towards the end of the discussion. The pupil assessed by the S.E.B. is B1, who is assessed as grade 6, Foundation level. The group has been played 6 pop songs twice through, and they have taken notes from the lyrics with the aim of preparing a film script for which the songs will form the sound track. The songs they discuss are: "Nowhere man" by the Beatles, "Only sixteen" by Sam Cooke, "My home town" by Bruce Springsteen, "My little town" by Simon & Garfunkel, "Glory days" by Bruce Springsteen, and "Randolph and me" by Gallacher & Lyle. The discussion lasts 5 minutes, 5 seconds.

1. G1: uhuh (.) that's =yeah=

G2: (.) there's Bobby and Randolph=

G3: =yeah=

B1:

B2:

2. G1:

G2: =and that's got to be because they're named in the songs=

G3:

B1:

B2:

3. G1:

G2:

G3: = yeah they're mentioned and there's somebody called Kate

B1:

B2:

4. G1: (.) but that's just like a mention in a song (.)

G2: (.) oh aye

G3:

B1:

B2:

5. G1: it's not really (.) you know

G2: yeah (.) but it doesn't have to be a

G3: I know (.) but you could build it up

B1:

B2

6. G1:

G2: character

G3: (.) you could build it up though (.) because (.) ehm (1)

B1:

B2:

7. G1:

G2:

G3: this boy Bobby (.) he's married this girl called Kate (.)

B1:

B2:

8. G1:

G2:

G3: and his friend Randolph (.) now that Bobby and Kate have

B1:

B2:

9. G1:

G2:

G3: split up (.) he goes up to speak to her and all this so (.)

B1:

B2:

10. G1:

G2:

G3: you could build it up a bit or you could just (.) fade it

B1:

B2:

11. G1: =you could

G2: (1) yeah (.) you could= (.) it'd probably be

G3: away

B1:

B2:

12. G1:

G2: better if sh. she was the main character (.) cos (.) I mean

G3:

B1:

B2

13. G1: yeah

G2: it (.) it would (.) just the two boys

G3: just the two boys (.) I

B1:

B2:

14. G1: ((laughter))

G2: ((laughter))=it'd be pretty

G3: mean what're the girls going to do=

B1:

B2:

15. G1: = yes okay (.) so it's just going to

G2: boring for them anyway=

G3: = I mean (.) so

B1:

B2:

16. G1: be Bobby (.) Randolph= =and Kate (.) though what

G2: = and Kate=

G3:

B1:

B2:

17. G1: Kate is (.) Kate's going to be their wife (.) or one of

G2:

G3: she's the one

B1:

B2:

18. G1: their wives

G2: it says that she could turn all the boys' heads in

G3:

B1:

B2:

19. G1:

G2: school so =they

G3: (.) yeah they must have known her at school=

B1:

B2

20. G1: =well one of the boys

G2: must have known her at school= =and

G3:

B1: =yeah=

B2:

21. G1: has got to be exceptionally good looking then

G2: ((laughter))

G3: (.) that's (.)

B1:

B2:

22. G1:

G2: =yeah=

G3: that's Bobby (.) I think it's Bobby because it says=

B1:

B2:

23. G1:

G2:

G3: =how (.) he had this friend (.) Randolph had this friend

B1:

B2:

24. G1: and that could be the

G2:

G3: who was the (.) big baseball player (.) you know that in

B1:

B2:

25. G1: mhmm

G2:

G3: American films (.) you always see this (.) guy who plays

B1:

B2:

26. G1: I know

G2:

G3: baseball (.) it's the good looking one who gets all the

B1:

B2

27. G1: ((2secs)) yeah (.) mm (1) so who's going to be the

G2: ((general))

G3: girls

B1: ((laughter))

B2:

28. G1: baseball player then= (.) and Randolph and are

G2: =Bobby

G3: =that's Bobby and he marries (XXX

B1:

B2:

29. G1: we going to do it with the two col. (.) the blacks and

G2:

G3: X)

B1:

B2:

30. G1: whites no =sure

G2: (.) no =uhuh Bobby marries her=

G3: Bobby must marry her= =cos

B1:

B2:

31. G1:

G2:

G3: he's (.) but they've split up and Randolph (.) is the one

B1:

B2:

32. G1:

G2: =mmm hearing all

G3: who ends up talking to her all the time=

B1:

B2:

33. G1:

G2: the prob. the problems

G3: (2) but if you (1) it depends if you

B1:

B2

34. G1:

G2:

G3: do it black and white (.) one of them be black and the

B1:

B2:

35. G1:

G2:

G3: other one be white=

B1: =yeah (.) well uh you know ehm (2) in

B2:

36. G1:

G2:

G3:

B1: that (1) last verse in (.) in m. my home town? (3) well it

B2:

37. G1: =uhuh

G2:

G3:

B1: says that (.) he's thirty five now right?= (1) tha. so

B2:

38. G1:

G2: (1) uhuh there's somebody

G3:

B1: (.) if you go back a bit (.) and there's

B2:

39. G1:

G2: called Kate mentioned twice= uhuh (.) cos

G3: =he must marry (XXXX)

B1:

B2:

40. G1:

G2: there's Kate and (1) which one is (.) and (5.5) I can't

G3:

B1:

B2:

41. G1:

G2: find it just now (1.5) um glory days I think it is (.) Kate

G3: mm

B1:

B2:

42. G1:

G2: is mentioned (.) oh no it's not that one cos= =it's

G3: yeah there's a Kate =it's Kate=

B1:

B2:

43. G1:

G2: Kate in my home town (.) that's (.) her in (1.5) there's a

G3: in my home town

B1:

B2:

44. G1:

G2: girl that lives up the block (.) back in school she could

G3:

B1:

B2:

45. G1:

G2: turn all the boys heads that could be (2) Kate I suppose

G3:

B1:

B2:

46. G1:

G2: (.) who marries the (.) cos her and her Bobby (.) her

G3:

B1:

B2:

47. G1:

G2: husband Bobby (.) well they split up=

G3:

B1: =what about all the

B2:

48. G1: (.) because it says in (2) my home town

G2:

G3:

B1: other songs though

B2:

49. G1: he's (.) s. sitting in a car with his father (.) how're

G2: uhuh

G3:

B1:

B2:

50. G1: you (2) like=

G2:

G3: =but it depends which one you choose t. (.) for

B1:

B2:

51. G1:

G2: (3) you could either take that one to be (2) you

G3: th. that

B1:

B2:

52. G1:

G2: could take that one to be Bobby (.) because (.) in the

G3:

B1:

B2:

53. G1:

G2: last verse (.) last night (.) me and Kate we laid in bed

G3:

B1:

B2:

54. G1: (1) well it sounds like it's (.)

G2: talking about getting out

G3:

B1:

B2:

55. G1: the first verse is round about (.) say (1) the fifties

G2:

G3:

B1:

B2:

56. G1: because (.) in sixty-five the tension's running high=

G2: =yeah

G3:

B1:

B2:

57. G1: (1) so he'd

G2: that was when they had all the fights in America

G3:

B1:

B2:

58. G1: have to be quite he'd (.) much older to (.) to understand

G2:

G3:

B1:

B2:

59. G1: what was going on=

G2: =yeah (.) because he'd have to be at high

G3:

B1:

B2:

60. G1: (1.5)

G2: school (.) well it does say he was at high school

G3:

B1:

B2:

61. G1: eight years old ((4 secs laughter and indistinct talk))

G2: ((4 secs laughter and indistinct talk))

G3: ((4 secs laughter and indistinct talk))

B1:

B2:

62. G1:

G2: in my home town (.) and my little town (.) it's both like

G3:

B1:

B2:

63. G1:

G2: (.) it starts off when they're really young (.) and then

G3:

B1:

B2:

64. G1:

G2: it goes up sort of through teenage and then to older life

G3:

B1:

B2:

65. G1:

G2: when when they sort of (.) they've become wiser as they've

G3:

B1:

B2:

66. G1:

G2: grown older (.) but (.) it's s. sort of

G3: yeah (4) so there's

B1:

B2:

67. G1:

G2:

G3: three characters (.) Kate Bobby (.) and Randolph

B1:

B2:


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